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  How Much Damage Would You Assess?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  just as there is no such thing as a christian who worships satan, there is no such thing as a christian outside of the new covenant “for the forgiveness of sins”.

  and he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, drink ye all of it, for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

  - mt.

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  Sea Breeze

  Good points Vidqun.
  
  I believe "condemned" is a better word choice because Hebrews 9: 27 says we we all be judged.

  But, the verses you point out show that believers are not condemned. Belivers have gotten themselves in agreemment with God and were judged (condemned) along with Jesus at Calvary. Because we "died" with Christ we are also resurrected with him.

  Col. 2 - In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which also you were raised with Him through the faith of the power of God
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  How Much Damage Would You Assess?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just as there is no such thing as a christian who worships satan, there is no such thing as a christian outside of the new covenant “for the forgiveness of sins”.

  and he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, drink ye all of it, for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

  - mt.

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  Sea Breeze

  But now the thousand million dollar question: Where does that leave the majority of spectator JWs?

  Vidqun,

  JW's make a choice on whom to believe, just like everyone else does. Jesus offers a deal for the forgiveness of sins to "whosoever"; and Watchtower tells people the opposite - he wasn't talking to you.
  
  The choice before people is really that simple. Whom we believe determines whether we escape the condemnation we were born into; or admitted as a son or daughter into God's royal family.
  
  

  John 3:18 Modern English Version

  He who believes... Him is not condemned. But he who does not believe [Him] is condemned already, because he has not believed... the only begotten Son of God.
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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  @vienne,

  With all due respect, please follow your own advice. I couldn't help but notice that in your denunciation you failed to even acknowledge the clear biblical teaching I provided about what the New Covernant is for:

  And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. - Mt. Ch. 26

  You know as well as I do the JW's do not believe this applies to them. They are told that this offer of forgiveness of sin debt is not directed to them.
  
  I will write you a check right now for $1,000.00 to the charity of your choice if you can provide one NT scripture that describes how a person can get their sins forgiven OUTSIDE of the New Covenant.
  
  Again, please follow your own advice and provide something biblical as I did just before you accused me of not providing anything biblical.

  Gas lighting just makes you appear mentally weak.
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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  @vienne

  They don't reject it. They see it differently than you do.... Does it disqualify them as Christians? Christianity has been very diverse since Paul's day. God will determine who and what he accepts. That's not up to us.

  You sound like this is some sort of Russian Roulette game. God's word tells us exactly all we need to know. Without the NC we are all "condemned already". Mt. 26: 27-28 is perfectly clear that it is "for the forgiveness of sins".
  
  This is what Christians are looking for. To say otherwise is an impossibility, like a Muslim who worships Buddah, or a Christian who worships Satan, it can't logically exist. There is no such thing as a Christian outside of the NC "for the forgiveness of sins". That is what Jesus came to delive to man as our kinsman redeemer.
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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  This is the long path around my point: Personalities and a sense of entitlement differ among Witnesses in general and among Watchtower Elders. Some are 'gems,' and some are incurable fools.

  But they all have one thing in common, they either reject the new covenant "for the forgiveness of sins" that Jesus offered in Mt. 26: 27-28; or they teach others to do so.
  
  And, according to Gal. 1: 8-9; they are damned for it.
  
  
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  How Much Damage Would You Assess?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just as there is no such thing as a christian who worships satan, there is no such thing as a christian outside of the new covenant “for the forgiveness of sins”.

  and he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, drink ye all of it, for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

  - mt.

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  Sea Breeze

  Rattigan350,

  Are you not in the new covenant yet "for the forgiveness of sins"?

  Don't you want to get your sins forgiven?
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  Romans 10: 9 Simple Salvation - Not So Fast Says WT.

  by Sea Breeze in

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  "if you confess with your mouth that jesus is lord and believe in your heart that god raised him from the dead, you will be saved".

  - romans 10: 9. i find it interesting that this simple requirement for salvation has been a specific target of wt since their beginning.. first, jw's call jehovah lord, not jesus.

  the fact that scripture calls jesus the king of kings and lord of lords doesn't seem to matter to them.

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  My bible says that “if any man hath not the spirit of Christ, he is none of his”. - Romans 8: 9

  The only way to get the spirit of Christ is by being born again and declared righteous (Justified in KJV) by the blood of the covenant “for the forgiveness of sins” , the one JW's reject.

  How will you avoid the wrath of God if you are not Justified?

  Romans 5: 1&9 - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:…being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

  The Watchtower has lied to you and told you the NC is only for a ticket to heaven, when in reality it is “for the forgiveness of sins (Mt. 26: 27–28) regardless of destinations.

  Without being declared righteous by the blood of the covenant (Justified) you have nothing but Judgment and Wrath in store for you.

  I’m not talking about religion here. This is what God requires clearly in his word. There is room in the house about disagreements on other stuff, but not this one. Utterly non-negoitable.
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  How Much Damage Would You Assess?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just as there is no such thing as a christian who worships satan, there is no such thing as a christian outside of the new covenant “for the forgiveness of sins”.

  and he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, drink ye all of it, for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

  - mt.

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  Sea Breeze

  Just as there is no such thing as a Christian who worships Satan, There is no such thing as a Christian outside of the New Covenant “for the forgiveness of sins”

  And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it, For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. - Mt. 26: 27–28

  Since everyone in their right mind would want their sins forgiven by God, JW’s must lie to the public in order to attract new converts. It is only once a person has their whole family in the religion that the trap is set. If they find out that their sins are not really forgiven like the WT teaches, a person’s family will be prohibited from speaking to them.

  How many converts do you think JWs could make if they told people the truth up front, or, in one of the many baptismal questions?

  ZERO

  This is pure fraud and is most certainly illegal. It has no place in a free and law-abiding society.

  So, If Watchtower was found guilty of fraud by not disclosing they teach that Jesus is NOT your Mediator before your baptism and you lost your family as a result from shunning; what would you assess damages at for a lost family if you were on the jury?
  
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  Why Was WT OK with Blood Transfusions for over 65 Years Before Banning?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  blood transfusion history.

  1665 the first recorded successful blood transfusion occurs in england: physician richard lower keeps dogs alive by transfusion of blood from other dogs.. 1818 james blundell performs the first successful blood transfusion of human blood to treat postpartum hemorrhage.. 1840 the first whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia is successfully completed.. 1900 karl landsteiner discovers the first three human blood groups, a, b and o.. 1902 landsteiner’s colleagues, alfred decastello and adriano sturli, add a fourth blood type, ab.. 1907 blood typing and cross matching between donors and patients is attempted to improve the safety of transfusions.

  the universality of the o blood group is identified.. 1914 adolf hustin discovers that sodium citrate can anticoagulate blood for transfusion, allowing it to be stored and later transfused safely to patients on the battlefield.. 1932 the first blood bank is established at leningrad hospital.. 1939-1940 the rh blood group is discovered and recognized as the cause behind most transfusion reactions.. 1940 the us government establishes a nationwide blood collection program.. so from the beginning of the watchtower being printed in 1879, they were ok with blood transfusions until 1945. what caused this?

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  Sea Breeze

  ’Cause Rutherford had cancer, and that treatment involves transfusions, if I’m not mistaken.

  @Vidiot,

  Wow! Wouldn't it be great if we could prove Rutherford took blood transfusions?
  
  
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  Do you recognize the Truth? Watchtower July, 2024

  by Listener in

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  2. bible

  the stated focus of this study article is.

  focustraining ourselves to discern the difference between the truth we have learned from jehovah and the falsehoods promoted by satan and our opposers.. of course, the article goes on to claim that the truth is not only in the bible, but also from the watchtower organization.

  the first of two qualities needed to discern truth is -.

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  Sea Breeze

  Here's how Watchtower "truth" works:

  1. Today's truth

  2. Tomorrow's adjustments

  3. Yesterday's apostasy

  It may be easier to just remember the phrase, "three times stupid".